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Why aren’t I winning the MDTA Cup?

Through the magic of spreadsheets and macros the MDTA cup points are tracked each week based on results submitted by tournament hosts and/or tabroom staff. With the increased use of the  Joy of Tournaments program for registration this year we’ve hoped to cut back significantly on some common errors, but it is still very possible that some student points may not be correctly reflected for many reasons. The most common is simple misspelling. Each unique spelling (or nickname, or abbreviation) will show up as a different person, therefore if you were listed in results packets as Tom, Tommy, and Thomas on three different weekends, your points are being split as if earned by 3 separate identities.

This also occasionally comes into play with school names – St. vs. Saint, etc. Throughout the season this will be checked and re-checked, but updates and corrections are made at all times – thus the disclaimer on all update posts – results are subject to change with final audit!

If your name was misspelled in the results packet, it’s a good bet it was carried into the MDTA Cup points tracking incorrectly as well. If you’ve noticed this, please email your correct name spelling, format of debate you compete in, and school to and I’ll be sure to take a closer look at combining your aliases.

You can also track your own MDTA Cup points to be sure they match:

Individual Points:

1 Point for Competing at Tournament (in-state)

1 Point for finishing 1 through 8th place, or qualifying to elim rounds, whichever includes more students

1 Point for placing first at a tournament without elims

1 Point for each elimination round won

Max of 5 points per tournament

Must participate in four in-state tournaments to qualify for award

1 Point for qualifying to state tournament

(MSHSL State Tournament or MSHSL State Festival results do not count towards awards)

 The top two point earners in each format at each tournament count towards school points.

As always, we thank tournament hosts for forwarding the results and brackets of varsity divisions asap after your event.

2014 MDTA Cup Update

With a month of competition behind us, the MDTA Cup race has truly begun! Varsity debaters in CX, PF, and LD garner MDTA Cup points for in-state tournament participation and placing. The top 2 point-earners for each school at each tournament are counted towards team points. Full rubric of point allocations can be found here:

In Policy debate Minneapolis South has a clear lead in team points with 8, followed by Wayzata with 5, then a 3-way tie between Roseville, Bloomington, and Eden Prairie each with 4. The individual point leader is Dan Bannister of Highland Park who is out to an early lead with 7 points, followed by AJ Gerick of Minneapolis South and Ian Dil of Highland Park with 5 points each.

The Public Forum group is densely packed with three debaters tied for the lead – Ryan Mather of Eastview, Maddy Hillson of Robbinsdale, and Sara Hodgson of Robbinsdale each have 6 points. The next 8 debaters are just a point behind the leaders– so it is definitely still neck and neck. In the team points column Eastview (13) has a single point lead over Maple Grove (12), with St. Paul Academy and Robbinsdale two more points back (10).

Lincoln-Douglas debaters are a bit more spaced out but the lead is shared by Dylan Adelman of Lakeville South and Andrew Urevig of Robinsdale, each with 8 points. The next closest debater is Matthew Balascak of Eagan with 6, followed by 4 competitors with 5 points each. In program points Eagan is in the lead with 14, followed by Robbinsdale with 13, and Lakeville South with 12.

LD ResultsPF ResultsCX ResultsClassic Results

All results are tentative pending a final audit.  If you suspect an error or have additional information, please alert

Public Forum Debate officially recognized by MSHSL

The MSHSL accepted the MDTA recommendation to add public forum debate to the 2012-13 state debate tournament. This process started several years and with the assistance of Chris Franson from the MSHSL we were able to get our proposal adapted. This proposal is to add public forum debate to the traditional debate timeframe and a qualification process will be identified for the event.

The next process will be to formalize the state tournament rules and a committee will be formed to update the rules by February of 2012.

Debate Health

One of the factors in accepting public forum debate is the overall strength of debate throughout the state. Today 63 schools participate in all forms of debate and public forum will simply increase our ability to increase outreach throughout the state.

Again, more information will be coming on this subject, but congratulations to those who helped in this process.